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LS swap transmissions: 4L60E vs 4L80E, T56, TKX & 8HP

The short answer: pick by power, by what will run the transmission, and by what fits your tunnel.

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Below: how to choose step by step, every transmission compared, T56 tags, controllers and the flexplate and driveshaft details. Already know your vehicle and engine? The swap planner builds the parts list with your transmission in it.

How we put this guide together

Transmissions were the single biggest topic in our research: 467 of the 2,012 LS swap questions we pulled from forum threads involved the transmission, the flexplate or converter, the clutch, the crossmember or the driveshaft behind it. The recurring ones: do I need a spacer for a 700R4?, which flexplate goes with a 4L80E on a 5.3?, what runs an electronic transmission? and how long does the driveshaft need to be? The answers below use GM and Tremec ratings and the controller makers' own specs.

Step 1: Pick the transmission for what you're building

Start with how the transmission is controlled, because that decides what else you have to buy.

  • GM electronic automatics (4L60E, 4L80E, 6L80/6L90): they need a computer that runs them. That's either the factory PCM they came with, or a Holley Terminator X Max, which has 4L60E/4L80E control built in and runs a 6L80/6L90 with Holley's 558-499 kit (2WD only; needs Holley V3 software, build 100 or later). See the ECU comparison.
  • Older GM automatics (TH350, 700R4, Powerglide, TH400): no computer, but they need a different flexplate setup (Step 3). The 700R4 also needs its TV cable set up to work with an LS throttle, because the TV cable sets line pressure and a wrong setup burns the clutches. More: 700R4 TV cable bracket geometry.
  • Manuals (TKX, T56 family, TR6060, T5): no controller, but you need an LS-specific bellhousing, clutch, flywheel and hydraulic release. The Tremec TKX is the most popular LS swap manual today; a T56 may need firewall or tunnel work to fit.
  • ZF 8HP: it needs an adapter plate and a standalone transmission controller. Pick the controller before you buy the transmission, because support varies by 8HP generation and by the carmaker it came from. The adapter has to match your exact 8HP source.

Step 2: Check it can take your power

Match the transmission to your goal, not to the stock engine. From the ratings in our table:

Transmission What it's rated for
4L60E Stock about 300–360 lb-ft (about 300–400 hp on the street); built units about 450–500 hp
4L80E / 4L85E 440 lb-ft (MT1); 4L85E (MN8) 460 lb-ft: GM's factory engine-torque ratings. Built units and GM's SuperMatic 4L85-E crate version are sold with higher ratings; go by what the builder of your unit rates it for
T5 (World Class) 300 lb-ft
Tremec TKX 600 lb-ft
Tremec Magnum family 700 lb-ft

Whether a 4L60E will hold up to more power came up in 10 of the forum questions. Compare its numbers above to your target before you buy, especially if boost is in the plan.

Step 3: Get the flexplate and converter right (automatics)

This is simple once you see why it matters: the LS keeps the old small-block's bellhousing dowels and 5 of its 6 bolt holes, but the crankshaft flange sits farther forward. So what goes between the crank and the converter depends on the transmission:

  • 4L60E (LS version): 11.062 in. converter bolt pattern. LS-version 4L60Es use a 300 mm input shaft and an LS converter.
  • 4L80E: 11.5 in. converter pattern, so it needs a 4L80E-pattern flexplate.
  • TH400: also the 11.5 in. pattern, the same as an LS that came with a 4L80E. Space the factory 4L80E flexplate out with an adapter.
  • TH350, 700R4, Powerglide: most LS cranks sit about 0.400 in. shorter than older GM engines. Use a dished (or dual-pattern) flexplate with the 10.75 in. converter pattern, plus a converter adapter sleeve.

The exception that catches people: 1999–2000 LQ4 6.0s have a "long" crank flange. They take a flat flexplate with no dish or spacer. Behind one of those, a TH350 works with a TH400 converter, but a 700R4 has no easy fix short of a 2001-or-later crank.

If you're not sure which crank you have, go by the engine's year and code in the engine finder.

Step 4: Plan the crossmember, driveshaft and mounts

Changing the transmission moves the mounting point and the output shaft.

  • Crossmember: plan on a transmission crossmember that fits your engine and transmission combination. It sets where the transmission mount sits, and with it the driveline angle. Check your vehicle's swap guide for kits we've sourced for it. More: getting driveline angles right.
  • Driveshaft: don't plan on reusing the original. The engine and transmission usually sit about 3° down at the back, with the pinion set to match so the U-joint angles cancel. Measure for length with the engine and transmission in their final position. More: driveshaft and driveline angles
  • Avoid the LS4 for rear-wheel drive: the 2005–2009 front-drive Impala SS/Monte Carlo SS/Grand Prix GXP engine uses a different bellhousing bolt pattern, among other problems.

Step 5: Make it shift

Before first start, confirm the transmission's control is sorted: the computer for an electronic unit (and a tune that knows about it), the TV cable on a 700R4, or the clutch hydraulics on a manual. The tune checklist covers what the computer side needs. More: transmission tuning for an LS swap.

Ratings, fitment notes and controllers for every transmission are in the tables below. Found something that doesn't match your experience? Tell us.

Every transmission compared

TransmissionTypeGearsRPOTorque ratingBellhousingLS fitmentControllerUsed
4L60Eauto4M30Stock ≈300–360 lb-ft (≈300–400 hp street); built street units ≈450–500 hp; fully re-engineered 800+ hpGM V8 bellhousing pattern; bolt-on removable bellhousing on 1996+ cases; 1998+ LS (Gen III) versions use a 300 mm converter, 300 mm-style input shaft and pump (non-LS units used 298 mm)GM LS-family bellhousing; LS versions use 300 mm input shaft / LS converter (non-LS 298 mm)Factory GM PCM, or Holley Terminator X Max (built-in 4L60/4L80 control)Used 4L60Es
4L80Eauto4MT1440 lb-ft (MT1); 4L85E (MN8) 460 lb-ftBellhousing is cast into the factory case (GM V8 / LS bolt pattern). A removable aftermarket bell needs an aftermarket case or a machined conversion of the factory case.GM LS-family bellhousingFactory GM PCM, or Holley Terminator X Max (built-in 4L60/4L80 control)Used 4L80Es
6L80 / 6L90auto6Not confirmedGM LS-family bellhousingFactory GM ECU/TCM, or Holley Terminator X Max + 558-499 6L80/6L90 kit (2WD only; needs Holley V3 software, build 100 or later)Used 6L80Es
8L45auto8M5N / N8RMax engine torque 275 lb-ft; max gearbox torque 406 lb-ft (550 Nm)2-piece main case with the bell integrated into the main case (non-removable bellhousing); die-cast aluminum.GM bellhousingUsed 8L45s
8L90auto8M5U (8L80: MFC/N8X)900 Nm (~664 lb-ft) max gearbox torque (GM estimate); 420 bhp max engine power2-piece main case with the bell integrated into the main case (non-removable bellhousing); die-cast aluminum.GM bellhousing (LS/LT family)Needs GM TCM/ECM support or standalone controllerUsed 8L90s
ZF 8HP70auto88HP70/75 family ≈ 700–750 Nm factory (ZF); often run well above with torque managementNo removable bellhousing — bell is integral to the case; Dodge/Ram 8HP70 donor units carry the Gen III Hemi bolt pattern, so an LS swap requires an adapter plate between block and caseAdapter required. Case/bellhousing is OEM-specific: kits exist for Ram/Hemi-pattern 8HP (e.g., LOJ) and for BMW-pattern 8HP (e.g., PMC Motorsport). Confirm the adapter matches your exact 8HP source (even two BMW 8HP70s can differ).Standalone TCU required; choose the TCU before buying the transmission (support varies by 8HP generation and OEM; e.g., some controllers support Gen 1 8HP45/70/90 only).
10L80 / 10L90auto1010L80: MF6 (full-size SUV/truck applications); 10L90: MX0 (launch RPO, 2017 Camaro ZL1); 2017-2021 Camaro 10L90 also listed as RPO MI4.10L90: 650 lb-ft (GM SuperMatic rating). 10L80: not confirmedGM bellhousing — standard SBC bolt pattern shared with Gen V LT (and LS) engines; 10L80/10L90 is the factory 10-speed for Gen V LTGM bellhousing (10L); Ford 10R80 is a different caseStandalone controller or GM ECM supportUsed 10L80s
T5 (World Class)manual5MK6 (1988–92 F-body)300 lb-ft (WC with hardened 1st gear, from ~1990); Standard/NWC 265 lb-ftSeparate bolt-on bellhousing (not integral to the case); GM T5 cases use the standard GM (Muncie/Saginaw) 4-speed transmission bolt patternFound in S-10, Camaro/Firebird; LS use needs bellhousing/adaptern/aUsed World Class T5s
Tremec TKXmanual5600 lb-ft; 8,000 rpm capable, shifts at 7,500 rpmAftermarket; LS bellhousing requiredn/a
TR6060manual6MG9 / MH3430–650 lb-ft (580–880 Nm) max input torque, depending on gearingGM LS/LT versions in Camaro SS/ZL1, Corvette C6, CTS-V, G8 GXP, Chevrolet SSn/a — manual transmission; no electronic controllerUsed TR6060s
Tremec Magnummanual6700 lb-ftNo bellhousing included — Tremec application table lists 'Includes Housing: No' (GM TUET11009/11012, Ford TUET11010/11011)Aftermarket; GM and Ford variantsn/a
Tremec Magnum-Fmanual6700 lb-ft (949 Nm)Replaces T56 in 1998–2002 F-body; also for 1993–97 LT1 F-body (needs flywheel/clutch/slave changes)n/a
Tremec Magnum-XLmanual6700 lb-ftNo bellhousing includedGM variant available; includes SFI steel bellhousing, crossmember, trans mount, isolated shifter; reuses OEM hydraulic releasen/a

T56 part numbers: identify a used T56

The T56 was built for GM, Ford, Dodge, Holden and Aston Martin. The tag number tells you which one you have; bellhousing, input shaft and shifter location differ. Sellers list them by the car they came out of, so shop by that, then check the tag before you pay.

Part numberOriginally forRatiosTorqueBellhousingNotes
1386-000-0031992 Dodge Viper2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1330 lb-ftDodge Viper V10 bolt pattern (OEM Viper application)Input splines 26, output 30
1386-000-0051993–1995 Dodge Viper2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1550 lb-ftDodge Viper V10 bolt pattern (OEM Viper application)Input splines 26, output 30
1386-000-0061993 Camaro/Firebird w/2.73 final drive "M28"3.36:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.35:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.62:1 / 3.28:1350 lb-ftInput splines 26, output 27
1386-000-0071993 Camaro/Firebird w/3.23 final drive "M29"2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.62:1 / 3.28:1400 lb-ftInput splines 26, output 27
1386-000-0091994–1995 Camaro/Firebird2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftInput splines 26, output 27
1386-000-011GM Aftermarket2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.62:1 / 3.28:1450 lb-ftGM bolt pattern (sold as a GM aftermarket unit)Input splines 26, output 27
1386-000-012Mustang 5.0 Aftermarket2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.62:1 / 3.28:1450 lb-ftFord small-block bolt pattern (aftermarket Mustang 5.0 unit)Input splines 10, output 31
1386-000-013Holden2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftGM/Holden bolt pattern (OEM Holden application)Input splines 26, output 27
1386-000-0141996–2002 Dodge Viper2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1Dodge Viper V10 bolt pattern (OEM Viper application)Input splines 26, output 30
1386-000-0161996–1997 Camaro/Firebird2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftInput splines 26, output 27
1386-000-0171998 Camaro/Firebird2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftSeparate bolt-on bellhousing — 1998–2002 F-body uses the LS1-specific T56 bellhousingInput splines 26, output 27
1386-000-0181996–2002 Dodge Viper2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftDodge Viper V10 bolt pattern (OEM Viper application)Input splines 26, output 30
1386-000-0192.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1390 lb-ft
1386-000-0201999–2002 Camaro/Firebird2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftSeparate bolt-on bellhousing — 1998–2002 F-body uses the LS1-specific T56 bellhousingInput splines 26, output 27
1386-000-021Aston Martin2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.79:1 / 0.63:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftInput splines 26, output 30
1386-000-022Holden Commodore2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1350 lb-ftGM/Holden bolt pattern (OEM Holden application)Input splines 26, output 27
1386-000-023Corvette C5 (MM6)2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1375 lb-ftNo conventional bellhousing — C5 Corvette T56 is a rear transaxle on a torque-tube drivelineInput splines 26, output 27
1386-000-0242.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1375 lb-ft
1386-000-025Corvette Z06 C5 (MZ6)2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.84:1 / 0.56:1 / 2.90:1385 lb-ftNo conventional bellhousing — C5 Corvette T56 is a rear transaxle on a torque-tube drivelineInput splines 26, output 27
TNET-10772.97:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1415 lb-ft
TNET-1247Dodge Viper2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftDodge Viper V10 bolt pattern (OEM Viper application)Input splines 26, output 30
TUET-12594.6 Mustang Aftermarket w/mech speedo2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.62:1 / 3.28:1450 lb-ftFord modular 4.6L bolt pattern (aftermarket Mustang unit)Input splines 10, output 31
TUET-12604.6 Mustang Aftermarket w/elec speedo2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.62:1 / 3.28:1450 lb-ftFord modular 4.6L bolt pattern (aftermarket Mustang unit)Input splines 10, output 31
TUET-1452Chevrolet Corvette2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1370 lb-ftNo conventional bellhousing — C5 Corvette T56 is a rear transaxle on a torque-tube drivelineInput splines 26, output 27
TUET-1453Chevrolet Corvette2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1370 lb-ftNo conventional bellhousing — C5 Corvette T56 is a rear transaxle on a torque-tube drivelineInput splines 26, output 27
TUET-1576Aston Martin2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.79:1 / 0.63:1 / 2.90:1415 lb-ftInput splines 26, output 30
TUET-16602.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1350 lb-ftOutput splines 27 (input not listed in the source)
TUET-16942003–2004 Mustang Cobra2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.79:1 / 0.63:1 / 2.90:1450 lb-ftFord bolt pattern (OEM Mustang Cobra application)Input splines 10, output 27
TUET-1806Dodge Viper SRT-102.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1550 lb-ftDodge Viper V10 bolt pattern (OEM Viper application)Input splines 26, output 30
TUET-2022Cadillac CTS-V2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.84:1 / 0.56:1 / 2.90:1GM bolt pattern (OEM Cadillac CTS-V application)
TUET-2060Mustang Cobra2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.62:1 / 3.28:1450 lb-ftFord bolt pattern (OEM Mustang Cobra application)Input splines 10, output 27
TUET-2062Dodge Viper2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1 / 2.90:1550 lb-ftDodge Viper V10 bolt pattern (OEM Viper application)Input splines 26, output 30
TUET-2066Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.84:1 / 0.56:1 / 2.90:1GM bolt pattern (OEM Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro application)Input splines 26, output 27
TUET-5044Cadillac CTS-V (M12)2.97:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.43:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.84:1 / 0.56:1 / 2.90:1GM bolt pattern (OEM Cadillac CTS-V application)
TUET-6450T-56 Ford N/A XR63.35:1 / 2.07:1 / 1.35:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.63:1Ford bolt pattern (OEM Ford Falcon XR6 application)Input splines 23, output 31
TUET-7477T-56 Magnum Chevy Aftermarket2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.63:1GM bolt pattern; aftermarket Magnum — bellhousing is application-specific and sold separatelyInput splines 26, output 31
TUET-7484T-56 Magnum Ford Aftermarket2.66:1 / 1.78:1 / 1.30:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.80:1 / 0.63:1Ford bolt pattern; aftermarket Magnum — bellhousing is application-specific and sold separatelyInput splines 26, output 31
TUET-8274T-56 Magnum Ford Aftermarket2.97:1 / 2.10:1 / 1.46:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1Ford bolt pattern; aftermarket Magnum — bellhousing is application-specific and sold separatelyInput splines 26, output 31
TUET-8277T-56 Magnum Chevy Aftermarket2.97:1 / 2.10:1 / 1.46:1 / 1.00:1 / 0.74:1 / 0.50:1GM bolt pattern; aftermarket Magnum — bellhousing is application-specific and sold separatelyInput splines 26, output 31

Transmission controllers

ControllerKindControlsTransmissionsDBWNotes
Factory GM ECU/PCM (junkyard)Factory GM computerEngine + the electronic transmission it was paired withMatches donor (e.g., 4L60E/4L80E with Gen III truck PCMs)Cheap, often comes with a junkyard engine; needs a standalone harness (bought from ~$500, e.g., BP Automotive, Speartech, PSI, Howell, or built from the donor harness) plus tuning. DIY total can be ~$400 if you already own ECU/software. Each GM ECU is designed for a specific vehicle/engine/trans combo.
Holley Terminator XAftermarket ECUEngine onlyNoSelf-learning EFI; better suited than a GM ECU for heavily modified or boosted engines.
Holley Terminator X MaxAftermarket ECUEngine + drive-by-wire + electronic transmission4L60E / 4L80E built in; 6L80 / 6L90 with Holley 558-499 transmission kit (2WD only; needs Holley V3 software, build 100 or later)YesIncludes engine and transmission harnesses. V3 software adds 6L80/6L90 control via separate harness kit.
Standalone 8HP TCU (TurboLamik, CANTCU, etc.)Standalone trans controllerZF 8HP transmissionZF 8HP (support varies by generation/OEM)Choose TCU before buying the transmission.

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